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September 30, 2011

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The RFP process may have been a legitimate attempt to attract proposals for the re-opening of the landfill, but the Trudy Wade-led process to award the bid to Gate City was not legitimate. Have we ever found out why Ms. Wade made a motion that the bid be awarded to Gate City for only Greensboro city trash? Of course, Gate City was the "second best" bidder if the bid only included "Greensboro city trash." However, the bids also included a proposal for accepting other trash, and Gate City was fifth in that proposal.
I have yet to hear Ms. Wade justify her motion, but the objective factors leads one to conclude that it was designed to get the contract to Gate City.
Does it surprise anyone that Ms. Wade was trying to assist a local company? Probably not, but the RFP was not set up for the selection to include such a consideration.
I think the gamesmanship that was involved in the attempt to award the contract to Gate City was the illegitimate part that Tony Collins was highlighting.

Perkins to Collins: "Jump!"

Collins: "How high?"

nuff said!

"He claims that, by using the landfill, we would consume precious landfill space and lose our opportunities to renegotiate effectively with out-of-town landfills."

Having open landfill space that everyone knows the city will never use again does not help the city's position in bargaining with out-of-town landfills.

Christian Brother, that is not what Mr. Collins has represented as his stated concerns. He has not said a word about the Gate City issue, as far as I can tell.

Again, we have to consider the scenario of Greensboro-only trash, which is what the conservative coalition was envisioning because of the elimination of phase 4 and 5 from consideration. Gate City was "in the ballpark" from a monetary standpoint with Greensboro-only trash volumes; was the only local vendor; and was deemed responsible and qualified by the consultant hired by the city. Those are considerations the conservative coalition used in selecting Gate City, as best I can understand it. And the RFP process did not prohibit them from these considerations.

But again, that is not Mr. Collins' expressed issue with the process.

I understand if some folks might not be happy that Waste Industries was not selected, given the ties that Don Vaughan (Nancy's husband) and Joe Williams have had to that company.

Good point, Arch. If city council members (or candidates) play their hand that the landfill is never going to be used, the negotiating advantage is lost.

Mr. Guarino, I will admit I'm not sure, but I think the issue of local contractor vs. out of state contractor was raised with the fuel contract. My recollection is that the City Council was not supposed to consider "local" vs. "not local" when awarding the contract, unless that criterion was set out in the RFP. But perhaps you might confirm with an independent source before your claim it was not prohibited by the RFP process. You can probably find out more easily than I can.

I too have wondered where this whole "the landfill re-opening has not been fully vetted" meme came from. Hells bells, it was all the City Council talked about for months.

When the Left says something has not been fully vetted that means they are in danger of their side losing.

Hi
I agree that we lost some weight in contract talks because we did not open the landfill and that is the fault of the current council. The council needed to mov with caution on the landfill issue but with so many conflicts I am not sure that could of ever been done. I have always said I was for keeping the landfill closed and I am sure I could of gotten a good deal with republic and cut down the 41 dollar rate. They say that the landfill in Randolph will be ready in 2013, but I ask what about opposition growing there in regards to residents not wanting our trash. The current council made this a mess and I understand they made the call to save money and I respect that but more care would of solved a lot of problems. Now we got no landfill, unsure about Randolph County, and the word is out that we will not open teh landfill. I think simply they made a mess.

SAL LEONE

Hi
My bad, I misspelled a word here and there. I type fast and with passion. I just hope the point was clear, better business could of solved evrything. I think all would agree we have a council split in half. This style will not promote Greensboro in a positive light.

SAL

Sal, as a police officer, I am sure that you know that it takes at least two parties for conflict to arise. Let's not pin all the blame on the conservative coalition. The members of the other side were gleeful participants in any disagreements that arose. It also should be kept in mind that the conservative coalition was poorly served by the attorneys working on the case. In fact, that is probably an understatement.

Do you think the liberal faction shares any of the blame for what occurred?

Ron, I agree for the most part. The liberal talking points have been self-serving and disingenuous.

Christian Brother, here is the point. Tony Collins does not want the landfill reopened; so debating over which contractor should have been selected is moot. He is against reopening the landfill to residential waste, so he would have voted against any contractor who proposed to do that. Right?

Let's not fuss over contractors if Collins' vote would be "no" anyway. Why bother?

I sure wish commenters would stick to the subject at hand, rather than going off into areas that are not relative!
Mary Rakestraw is the condidate that will do the most for ALL the citizens of Greensboro. Her record supports that.

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My bad, I misspelled a word here and there. I type fast and with passion. I just hope the point was clear, better business could of solved evrything.-Sal

SAl,as a potential politician you will be held to a higher standard than most. I would advise you to use spell check in any future statements. I would also encourage you to stop saying how honest you are, it makes you sound profoundly dishonest. Just a little insight.....

Sal, "could HAVE", not "could OF". When it's spoken, it's most often contracted as "could've", which sounds like "could of". Just a friendly FYI, because I've noticed that you value correct grammar and spelling. I appreciate that! :)

Thanks Michelle I hope to meet some of the bloggers someday because I always enjoy the discourse with others on here. I will agree with you Joe that all are to blame for the landfill issue that divided our city. I have no problem with Mrs. Rakeshaw and from the few chances I had to speak with her she seemed very nice. I have no dog in the fight here in District 4, Hoffman and Collins both have seemed like nice people when I spoke with them. I say let the best person win and if Mrs. Rakeshaw wins then that is the will of the people. I have no problem with that and CW I just used spell check and ok I will not say I am honest anymore, lol.

"Nice people" doesn't mean that they are best for Greensboro.

Mary Rakestraw speaks out on economic development and jobs:
http://www.maryrakestraw.com/econdev.html

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