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April 28, 2009

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The elephant in Europe's livingroom isn't Socialism, it's Parliamentary governing. There's actually really high numbers of Conservatives in both France and Britain, but, due to the demands of achieving and maintaining alliances, a whole lot of conflicting programs end up being funded. And then reversed, and then reinstated, etc.

I'm not saying out two-party system is completely immune from trying to institute some of the growth-stifling programs we see in Europe, and I'm not saying we don't have a lot of back-scratchin' going on here as well. But our corporations are simply too powerful to allow our government to stray too far. There's a reason why third (or more) parties have to struggle to raise enough contributions to even qualify for elections.

The problem, Steve, is that corporate America is complicit with the new brand of socialism that is being entertained. The banking/financial industries, the domestic automobile industries, and likely the health care industries are all, to a varying extent, demonstrating they are amenable to rolling over and playing dead at the hands of an aggressive state.

In fact, this approach almost suggests some tinges of fascism-- which, of course, is one of the forms that socialism can take.

And the voters have been amenable to installing a government that will take the centralizing influence further than some corporations would like. But recent events have demonstrated that corporate America is not necessarily averse to socialism.

Obama and the national Democrats know this moment is probably the best shot they will have to achieve these ends in many years; and they have been working to maximize those opportunities.

Joe, as you've probably figured out by now, I'm not totally against adopting some aspects of Socialism, even some that Europe has experimented with. But even though we might be seeing what appears to be Socialist tendencies developing here in the U.S., that's not really what it is.

It's a neo-Mercantilism, wherein the government and big business form a powerful partnership to control the wealth of the nation. Just like the Soviet Union wasn't a "true" Socialist institution, the direction we're heading is also not Socialism. If you look at the relationship between the Oligarchy and the Supreme Soviet of yesteryear, you can see some frightening similarities with the role of money in politics here in the States.

This is one reason why I really wish more Conservatives would push for campaign finance reform. They (and many on the Left) have been led to believe that limiting contributions will stifle freedom of speech. But not doing so is much more dangerous in the longrun.

Steve, I agree with you that we now have big business and government partnering to control the nation's wealth. I, too, am concerned about oligarchy. That is very worrisome to me.

If you read the Wiki description of fascism, under the subhead "national corporatism", you will see that Fascism attempted to do similar things:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Economic_policies

I am not sure campaign finance reform is the answer; and I do not think it corrects all the pathologies that have gotten us to this point. And some of those pathologies are in the collective hearts of the people. That is difficult to fix. And the collective weight of economic and political changes of dubious constitutionality enacted over the last century is also difficult to fix.

There are some frightening similarities there, Joe.

But here's the thing: the opposition movements in this country (Yes, I'm referring mostly to Republicans here) have some Fascist characteristics of their own:

"Thus fascism tends to be anti-intellectual.[92] The Nazis in particular despised intellectuals and university professors. Hitler declared them unreliable, useless and even dangerous."

"Fascism tends to promote principles of masculine heroism, militarism, and discipline; and rejects cultural pluralism and multiculturalism."

It may appear that I'm trying to counter-attack your implied position that our Democratic-led government is heading towards Socialism or Fascism, but what I'm really trying to do is expose neo-Mercantilism (I call it neo because it's much more complex than a few centuries ago) for the opportunistic machine that it is.

The only value morals and ideology and tenets have under neo-Mercantilism is how they can serve the monied interests. That's why you see a hodge-podge of different traits and beliefs coexisting rather comfortably in our body politic. Conservatism? Liberalism? Socialism? Fascism? Capitalism? They're just make-believe games we're allowed to play.

Lord, I'm starting to sound like a Libertarian. If I start talking about dismantling the FED or stocking up on gold, you have my permission to slap me. Except for Bubba. He's already slapped me with enough insults to last through the 2010 Election.

"Except for Bubba. He's already slapped me with enough insults to last through the 2010 Election."

Are you kidding?

You get much better treatment from me that what some of your Venceremos Brigade/Michael More-ons/Looney Tooner cohorts get.

Neomercantilism as described in Wiki:

"Neomercantilism is a term used to describe a policy regime which encourages exports, discourages imports, controls capital movement and centralizes currency decisions in the hands of a central government. The objective of neo-mercantilist policies is to increase the level of foreign reserves held by the government, allowing more effective monetary policy and fiscal policy."

It seems that right now we encourage imports and discourage exports to a significant extent with certain trade partners, although Obama may ultimately try to change that at least in some cases, I suppose, bringing us closer to this neomercantilist concept.

I see your point, though, and I don't like the Goldman Sachs/financial industry connections of those who have pushed the changes we have seen over the last 6-7 months at the Fed and Treasury; and in the Bush and Obama administrations overall. The bailouts and TARP just seem the wrong way to go.

But this post is also, very importantly, about another set of issues-- the enlargement of the governmental role as reflected in more bread-and-butter policymaking-- the SCHIPS expansion, the stimulus package, the Obama budget, health care reform, cap-and-trade, the vision for education, etc. There are some fundamental differences about the role that the national government should be playing, or not playing; and the way it should be relating to the states and to individual citizens. And the road Obama travels inevitably leads us much closer to the European socialist model in that regard.

"Neomercantilism is a term used to describe a policy regime which encourages exports, discourages imports"

Wiki can sometimes be the dull edge of a broken blade. In the age of Globalization, an individual nation's trade balance has very little impact on the amassing of wealth. If importing makes more money for the corporatocracy, but hurts consumerism by draining manufacturing jobs, then they'll just throw some money at the people to keep them buying stuff.

Neo-Mercantilism is about protecting monopolies, but how that is applied is often hard to predict or detect. Sometimes it takes the form of the exact opposite of protectionism. But it's in there somewhere.

That's interesting, Steve. What do you think the neomercantilist position of the Obama administration will be, in the long run, with respect to the bailouts/takeovers of Chrysler and GM? What is the administration trying to do there in the neomercantilist framework?

"If importing makes more money for the corporatocracy, but hurts consumerism by draining manufacturing jobs, then they'll just throw some money at the people to keep them buying stuff."

And you're whining about me insulting you?

Making a statement like you did almost qualifies you for the Protzman treatment.

"What is the administration trying to do there in the neomercantilist framework?"

Well, if you work from the assumption that it really doesn't matter which party is at the helm, a partial government takeover of the big auto manufacturers could help facilitate a radical renegotiation of labor contracts in favor of management.

If that is going to happen, it will probably happen pretty soon, too. Like within 9-12 months. And it will probably take the form of a quid pro quo, where management is "forced" to restructure their business model (escape from bad investments), and labor is called upon to sacrifice as well. The government would be seen as a neutral yet powerful mediator in this action, making it far less likely that a labor revolt would ensue.

"And you're whining about me insulting you?"

I'm really not sure what you found insulting about that comment, Bubba. I think the larger U.S. corporations have demonstrated quite clearly they are no longer worried about our trade deficits and they are no longer "in love" with the American worker.

Our value has increasingly been more about our consumerism than our productivity, and there's a lot of money to be made outsourcing and partnering with foreign business.

Steve, when the UAW is the majority owner, they become the "management", no? Or are they non-voting?

Now, making them the UAW majority owner may lead them to act more responsibly in various ways. And meanwhile, the feds get to decide what the product line will be. And if the whole enterprise fails, then what? Are the taxpayers on the hook for more, and more, and more?

There is much about this deal that is very murky to me. But it is not clear to me that what is happening is in service of the previous corporate management, even though it was their hands that were outstretched for the bailout dollars. It seems the situation may have evolved to some extent beyond their control because they accepted the federal money. Am I wrong?

"Steve, when the UAW is the majority owner, they become the "management", no? Or are they non-voting?"

Actually, it looks like UAW will control 39%, while the government controls 51% or so. But the union will also have to manage (pay for) the retiree health care plan, which is going to be an even bigger monster in the years to come.

As far as voting, I would imagine they will be, but it remains to be seen who will be picked to represent. And as far as current management, the ones that stay will have 24 billion less debt to worry about, and the ones that are forced out will probably throw a short party before taking their seat on another board(s).

Steve, I misspoke. I should have asked assuming that UAW was the majority nongovernmental owner. My understanding (correct me if I am wrong) is they were granted a very large stake even though they did not possess a proportionate level of the company's stocks or bonds. This is a curious arrangement, to put it mildly.

"I'm really not sure what you found insulting about that comment, Bubba."

It went over your head, didn't it?

That sentence was in reference to the cluelessness of this:

"If importing makes more money for the corporatocracy, but hurts consumerism by draining manufacturing jobs, then they'll just throw some money at the people to keep them buying stuff."

That is patently absurd prima facie.

Then there's this:

"Actually, it looks like UAW will control 39%, while the government controls 51% or so."

....which means the union controls 90% in this arrangement.

Do you not understand the widespread implications of an arrangement like this in the current political power structure?

Finally:

"Our value has increasingly been more about our consumerism than our productivity, and there's a lot of money to be made outsourcing and partnering with foreign business."

You don't really understand the domestic auto industry and the lessons learned and unlearned from the past 50 years, do you?

Here's a place for you to start learning something on this subject.

http://www.lii.net/deming.html

Joe, my understanding is: the UAW deal was put forward by GM itself. They've got an approximately 20 billion-dollar debt/liability to cover retiree health care, and they offered UAW (I'm not sure if they've taken the offer yet) a stock trade worth something like 10 billion to take over the health care thingie.

Now, I don't know if that's "new issue" (or whatever) stock or existing stock. But it would almost have to be new since GM shares are held by such a wide range of entities. I think the largest single entity only holds 4% or something.

I don't know, this stuff is really confusing sometimes. The "Float" shares, which are held by hundreds of fund portfolios, represent something like 49% of total shares. So maybe this government/UAW deal is really just 89% of the controlling 51% of shares? Too much for my little monkey brain to sort out.

New York Times today:

'According to restructuring plans proposed this week, the union will have more than half the stock in Chrysler and a third of General Motors, meaning it will have tremendous influence, with the government, in determining the future of the companies."

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